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Re: UNT vs RAR Flight 1, #Id 03, Gr B Race 4
#1
Matricola
Matricola


Well i agree that you rolled me, which was just possible because you never respond on my luff, you just tried to run over me. And it is not the point if you could make it it, its about if you kept clear, wich you failed in my opinion.

SO i still think you broke RRS 11 here

>>> VIDEO <<<

Posted on: 2018/5/11 7:55
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Re: Flight 2 #8. cam-lup protest Fix-Rar
#2
Matricola
Matricola


Sorry, we are asking for real situation, so No "If's" are needed here. How you would as Jury decide and explain please, if that would be a proper Protest.

These Answer clarify nothing !

Regards, Alex

Posted on: 2018/5/10 22:21
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UNT vs RAR Flight 1, #Id 03, Gr B Race 4
#3
Matricola
Matricola


Hi Jean Luc,

as i said i will speak to you about Race 4 Replay time 3:20 and going on.

For me, even if we had no contact, you broke RRS 11 by definition, for my understanding.


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Posted on: 2018/5/10 22:15
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Re: Flight 2 #8. cam-lup protest Fix-Rar
#4
Matricola
Matricola


Ok Sandy !

But i will request then the Jury for just their Opinion as Sailgood gave as opportunity to our advance.

Posted on: 2018/5/5 14:03
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Re: Flight 2 - Race4 - Fix vs Tiki - RRS 15 - Lupi vs RAR
#5
Matricola
Matricola


Ok, noticed it now :)

Posted on: 2018/5/5 13:58
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Flight 2 - Race4 - Fix vs Tiki - RRS 15 - Lupi vs RAR
#6
Matricola
Matricola


Hello Lupi's and Tiki, i would like to start a mediation about our Incident in Race 4

Protest / Mediation: mediation

1. Your registered Boat Name: Fix oder Nix

2. Event, Date, Group, Race #, Time (in Replay): Flight 2 - Race4 - Fix vs Tiki - Lupi vs RAR - 10:45 min

3. Rule(s) applicable:
13, 15 & 16.1
4. Skippers involved: Fix RAR and Tiki Lupi

5. Print Screen attached ? (required for a valid PROTEST) : Yes, when we going to protest

6. Description: At 10.30 min "replay time" Fix oder Nix after mark rounding back on close hault sailing on port, ducking Tiki which cross from starboard.

Short after i am ducking him he tacked on top of me. I tacked immediately back which would have been possible when Tiki not have had changed course and failed therefor to give me room to keep clear. For my understanding he broke RRS 15 or / and RRS 16.1 here.

Accepted penalty : no

Solved penalty : yes

Mediation carried out : still going on

Mediation result : still going on

Request to Committees : FixRAR ask for Tik Lup DSQ

7. Replay send to PC ? >>> REPLAY <<<

>>> VIDEO <<<

Posted on: 2018/5/5 13:20

Edited by FixoderNix on 2018/5/5 13:37:30
Edited by FixoderNix on 2018/5/5 13:38:27
Edited by FixoderNix on 2018/5/5 13:46:40
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Re: Flight 2 #8. cam-lup protest Fix-Rar
#7
Matricola
Matricola


Sorry for you Sandy, but i will not care if the protest would be formal correct, so if the Jury would take this Case into the proof, i am fine, even if you wrote only P, i felt you means me with that hail, so i have heard it! Therefor go ahead if the Jury would except with No disadvantages for you if it is not formal correct.

I witness you hailed P to me. And even after the race you told me you w'll protest for the luffing >< breaching scenario !

Cheers, Alex

>>> VIDEO <<<

Posted on: 2018/5/5 12:34
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Re: Flight 2 #8. cam-lup protest Fix-Rar
#8
Matricola
Matricola


Well Sandy, i understand what you are mean, but i don't see it in this case. Sorry.


To explain my point of view:
The MR call you take into account, is to recover broach / damage for real racing boats.


i do not see any aggressive luv, and therefor it is VSK and not a real boat, you where able to drop your spinnaker.

But this is a major direction protest, so it is interesting for the hole tournament how the outcome will be. I am fine if we go ahead and let the jury decide.

Posted on: 2018/5/5 9:32

Edited by FixoderNix on 2018/5/5 9:51:48
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Re: Flight 2 #8. cam-lup protest Fix-Rar
#9
Matricola
Matricola


Hello Sandy, i watched the replay, and i would like to know at wich moment you feel i brought you to broach ?

On my Replay i see only that you open the sheets, but not a broach by it self, and i let you time and room to set up your staysail.


Video from the Incident


Posted on: 2018/5/5 1:26
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